new dura ace

seagulljez
seagulljez Posts: 139
edited November 2008 in Workshop
just seen the new dura ace in the flesh, and it is lush..
internal cables for the sti's, and carbon levers make it very campag'ish, but being a shimano fan, I would go for the darkside every time.
only downside is the price, around £1500 for the groupset.
63 miles to go and the break is up the road

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  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    does look gorgeous!

    Cycling mate did have a lot of it on order, but ended up canceling it and putting more money into the frame, cant say i blame him as the performance difference isnt going to be much, well not that i would notice lol

    Love the chainring design and STIs, would have to say though i would like 11 speed like campag super record...

    mind you both are above my needs
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  • same as, couldn't spend that sort of silly money on a groupset, bad enough spending that much on a frame...
    wonder how fussy 11 speed gear is going to be once accustomed to our lovely british weather..?
    63 miles to go and the break is up the road
  • fluff.
    fluff. Posts: 771
    I see 7900 for ~£1000 unless I'm missing something obvious?
  • not sure if the 7900 has all the carbon bits, but might be wrong...
    63 miles to go and the break is up the road
  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,719
    7900 is the latest version of DA... Unless you're referring to electric DA?
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Saw both versions at the London show, and yes it is lovely isn't it ....
  • Personally I think it looks cheap. Looks wise it's a backwards step from the previous version.

    Probably works great though
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  • you must be from the darkside saying that
    63 miles to go and the break is up the road
  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    do fancy the Di2 variant with the end shifters for TT
    Road - BTwin Sport 2 16s
    MTB - Trek Fuel 80
    TT - Echelon

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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    willbevan wrote:
    do fancy the Di2 variant with the end shifters for TT

    That looks good stuff. But the STIs still have wobbly brake levers.
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  • Slow Downcp
    Slow Downcp Posts: 3,041
    And the chainset looks like it's off a 1980's Raleigh Winner :lol::wink:
    Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos
  • a nice raleigh though..!
    63 miles to go and the break is up the road
  • e999sam
    e999sam Posts: 426
    I think they have made a mistake in not making it backwards compatible with previous Dura Ace equipment.
  • seagulljez wrote:
    you must be from the darkside saying that

    Yep
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  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    edited November 2008
    sorry
  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    i saw a bike set up at Tour of Britain in stoke with the new dura ace and it does look good but at the moment its too expensive and doesn't work with the other groupsets but shimano will probably slowly make new versions of ultegra or 105 with similer features like they have done with 10speed or the newer chainset design and then eventually all shimano will work together.

    Hopefully it'll make the current dura ace cheaper as well cos thats really smooth and comfy when I rode it on a borrowed bike a month ago
  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    i saw a bike set up at Tour of Britain in stoke with the new dura ace and it does look good but at the moment its too expensive and doesn't work with the other groupsets but shimano will probably slowly make new versions of ultegra or 105 with similer features like they have done with 10speed or the newer chainset design and then eventually all shimano will work together.

    Hopefully it'll make the current dura ace cheaper as well cos thats really smooth and comfy when I rode it on a borrowed bike a month ago
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Doh!

    I ordered 7900 DA for my Look after seeing it in the flesh a few weeks ago. It has now (today) arrived at the store but they are now saying that there has been a 15% Shimano price hike in the last week and need to discuss money. :x

    I think I will now end up going for SRAM Red if that is the case (before any Campag lovers chip in, I think you are all freaks for putting up with SORA shifters ;) )
  • e999sam wrote:
    I think they have made a mistake in not making it backwards compatible with previous Dura Ace equipment.

    It is mostly backwards compatible. Check the compatibility PDF on the downloads page here: http://www.dura-ace.com/start.htm
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    I think I will now end up going for SRAM Red if that is the case (before any Campag lovers chip in, I think you are all freaks for putting up with SORA shifters )

    Yes, I have heard that people with webbed fingers have an acute problem getting their hands around the hoods and having sufficent cognitive abilities to be able to work their fingers and thumbs seperately!!
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  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    sorry i put the same post 3 times yesterday. wheres the delete post thing gone??
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Monty Dog wrote:
    I think I will now end up going for SRAM Red if that is the case (before any Campag lovers chip in, I think you are all freaks for putting up with SORA shifters )

    Yes, I have heard that people with webbed fingers have an acute problem getting their hands around the hoods and having sufficent cognitive abilities to be able to work their fingers and thumbs seperately!!

    Heh heh...

    :)
  • e999sam
    e999sam Posts: 426
    e999sam wrote:
    I think they have made a mistake in not making it backwards compatible with previous Dura Ace equipment.

    It is mostly backwards compatible. Check the compatibility PDF on the downloads page here: http://www.dura-ace.com/start.htm

    That's about as clear as mud. From what I can make out if I wanted to fit the 7900 levers they will work OK with the 7800 rear mech but I would have to change the front mech?
    Anyway thanks for that info.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    7900 shifters will not be compatible with 7800 rear mechs, but I'm sure the front mechs will be fine.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Well, it's official.
    My 7900 was delivered along with an invoice that included a 15% price hike.

    Utterly sneaky and ridiculous. I am now having SRAM Red instead...
  • I saw wiggle have bumped up there prices, where did you get yours from?
  • juggler
    juggler Posts: 262
    Is it just me who thought the 7800 chainset beautiful? Néw version is aesthetically unpleasing and a backward step compared to the previous version. Functionally inferior to the Campagnolo 11 speed groupsets. Shimano have lost the plot . However the big gamble is the electronic group.. Maybe. 7800 at £650 looks a bargain against a a soon to be superseded 7900.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Mine was from my local bike shop.
    After a (very short) discussion with them I am now having SRAM Red and am actually paying less...

    It's the principle as well as the money, they (Shimano) only announced the rise the day the equipment was sent to the stores. Apparently the increase is on everything Shimano.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Mine was from my local bike shop.
    After a (very short) discussion with them I am now having SRAM Red and am actually paying less...

    It's the principle as well as the money, they (Shimano) only announced the rise the day the equipment was sent to the stores. Apparently the increase is on everything Shimano.

    Yen vs. Sterling has changed very significantly (30%) since September
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