Will this recieve the same press?
Schmidthouse
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Seven athletes - I wonder if the press cover will be the same as that of cycling positives.
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/20102008/58/ ... r-ban.html
Tomashova receives two-year ban
Eurosport - Mon, 20 Oct 12:39:00 2008
Two-time world 1500m champion Tatyana Tomashova was one of seven Russian female athletes to receive a two-year doping ban for manipulating drug samples.
Tomashova, who also won a silver medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics and the European 1500m title in 2006, was provisionally suspended by the IAAF on July 31 for a fraudulent substitution of urine during a drugs test.
World indoor 1500m champion and world record holder Yelena Soboleva was also banned along with fellow distance runners Yuliya Fomenko and Svetlana Cherkasova.
European discus champion Darya Pishchalnikova, former hammer world record holder Gulfia Khanafeyeva and former world 5000m champion Olga Yagorova made up the list of athletes banned.
"All seven women were found guilty and thus were banned for two years," Russian Athletics Federation president Valentin Balakhnichyov said.
"The bans come into action from April or May 2007, the date when the samples were given for tests.
"We had undeniable proof of the athletes tampering with doping control process. The DNA in their samples just did not match.
"We could have banned them right then [in July] but first we had to give the athletes the chance to defend themselves.
"In every respect, they could not provide an adequate proof of their innocence, thus we had no choice but to ban them for two years which is a minimum sentence in this case."
Tomashova said that she was planning to appeal the ban.
"I don't consider myself guilty," she said. "As far as I know other girls are also planning to fight the ban in court."
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/20102008/58/ ... r-ban.html
Tomashova receives two-year ban
Eurosport - Mon, 20 Oct 12:39:00 2008
Two-time world 1500m champion Tatyana Tomashova was one of seven Russian female athletes to receive a two-year doping ban for manipulating drug samples.
Tomashova, who also won a silver medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics and the European 1500m title in 2006, was provisionally suspended by the IAAF on July 31 for a fraudulent substitution of urine during a drugs test.
World indoor 1500m champion and world record holder Yelena Soboleva was also banned along with fellow distance runners Yuliya Fomenko and Svetlana Cherkasova.
European discus champion Darya Pishchalnikova, former hammer world record holder Gulfia Khanafeyeva and former world 5000m champion Olga Yagorova made up the list of athletes banned.
"All seven women were found guilty and thus were banned for two years," Russian Athletics Federation president Valentin Balakhnichyov said.
"The bans come into action from April or May 2007, the date when the samples were given for tests.
"We had undeniable proof of the athletes tampering with doping control process. The DNA in their samples just did not match.
"We could have banned them right then [in July] but first we had to give the athletes the chance to defend themselves.
"In every respect, they could not provide an adequate proof of their innocence, thus we had no choice but to ban them for two years which is a minimum sentence in this case."
Tomashova said that she was planning to appeal the ban.
"I don't consider myself guilty," she said. "As far as I know other girls are also planning to fight the ban in court."
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Pain is ready, pain is waiting.
Primed to do it's educating.
Pain is ready, pain is waiting.
Primed to do it's educating.
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How much press did Kohl get? I first saw the story when it scrolled across the ticker on Sky Sports News, but I didn't see or hear anything else about it. Cycling doesn't get much press even if doping is involved.
It's interesting isn't it. Here is Aus you get cycling press when the TdF is on, when Aussies do well (ie: Stuey's win at Roubaix) or its local racing or when there is a doping positive.
Will be curious to see what cover this gets (but will probably have to wait till tomorrow).
Pain is ready, pain is waiting.
Primed to do it's educating.
Unlike us westerners who are squeaky clean.
Not that we're making generalisations or anything.....
16.80% USA
6.81% Russia (including Soviet Union)
5.33% Germany (including east and west germany)
4.31% UK
3.97% Italy
3.52% France
2.95% Bulgaria
2.61% Greece
2.50% China
2.38% Australia
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
"MLS has one of the strictest drug policies in professional sports and holds its athletes both responsible and accountable for what they put into their bodies," commissioner Don Garber said. "This is an important statement as to the high standards to which we hold our players."
or take a look at the typical bans given to baseball players in the past, until 2005 the policy was
1st offence 10 days
2nd offence 30 days
3rd offence 60 days
4th offence 1 year
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His second positive too. The last time they found out about his positive in the morning, had a thorough investigation lasting, ooh, at least a few hours, and cleared him later that afternoon. It was all related to his asthma TUE, see.
Anyone can bulk up but you don't get new jawlines and shadows on your forehead from a diet of weightlifting and three shredded wheat alone, it takes serious hormone abuse. No pundit dares question this though.
I am not saying anything out of turn. It's a well accepted fact amongst the athletes that the Eastern block athletes are, largely, dope cheats. This story just illustrates it for you. We have known it for years and years.
The story illustrates it how? The statistics don't back it up though do they. Would you say that USA athlete's are largely dope cheats? Black people are largely thieves, northerners are stupid and the Italians are fascist?
Put it in whatever context you like, the Eastern block has a history of doping athletes. That's the simplest way I can put it without people blindly stating it's not true because it's not politically correct. I don't care whether it's politically correct or not, it's a well accepted truth amongst athletes and most within the athletics system.
Any photos? I imagine my facial features would rearrange themselves if i had 100kg+ guys battering me every week for years
It's not a typo.
It's common practice to backdate the ban to the time of the positive test.
But in this case there wasn't a positive test as such. Just DNA analysis showing that these athletes had given several samples over time that appear to have come from several different people.
Backdating the ban to the time of the very first sample is literally taking the p*ss.
The IAAF are bound to appeal.
The facts are there in front of you. How many of those athletes are from the Eastern Block? You do the math on that and come back to me.
When it comes to Lance, because it's a case about an individual, then you have to provide strong evidence against him in order to label him a cheat. But I am starting to believe more and more myself that he may well have doped. But it's not the same as stating a simple fact that the Eastern Block has a history of doped up athletes. Honest to God, if you looked into a lot of these athletes from that part of the world - you probably don't know most of them by name - you'd start to see what I am on about. It's not just a few of them who are dopers, like in this country where most of our athletes are clean.
There are countless cases of Eastern Block athletes getting busted in the sport of athletics. Not talking about cycling. It's just a well known thing. Sorry if you don't believe me. If you don't, you need to do a bit more looking around for yourself. Why should I have to go to the trouble of finding a list of all the banned athletes from the Eastern Block? There are loads of 'em.
You are right to say injuries could change your looks but it's unlikely you would get a symmetrically identical longer jawbone as a result of a facial injury.
I don't need to look around for myself, I'm aware of the reputation the Eastern Block have and why the have it. The point I'm trying to make is that they aren't any dirtier than the US or the rest of Europe for that matter. They may be different in that if rumours are true, their doping programs were state run back in the GDR and other places. But whether individuals dope or their team dopes them, the outcome is the same. Look at the statistics Eastern Block countries aren't any worse than the rest of the World.
At number 10 with 15 bans its a three-way tie for Spain, Iran and Italy
At number 7 with 17 bans its Germany
Number 6 with 20 bans its China
Number 5 with 21 bans its South Africa
Number 4 with 24 bans its Morocco
Number 3 with 42 bans its USA
Number 2 with 45 bans is France
And number 1 with an amazing 64 drug bans is . . . . . . . .. . . . RUSSIA