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All Mountain Tyres You Dont Rate

grantwaygrantway Posts: 1,430
edited August 2008 in MTB general
What All Mountain tyres have you tried and dont rate and why
And what do you use now.

Conti Mountain Kings 2.4 totaly rubbish No grip in the wet / mud or the
roots Like ice skating with football boots and so many punctures
You also feel the tread give in the dry.

Specalized Storm tyres well where do you start touch the back brake
and the back slides out you can kiss your arss good bye xx
Very fast going straight But no good at all for All Mountain/trail riding.

I use Fat Alberts in the dry/wet fantastic grip and very fast.

For muddy conditions I use Swamp Things fab set of tyres like riding
in the wet. I use a 42a tacky up front and a 60a rear.


  • AmosAmos Posts: 438
    Im using Continental Vertical Pro's at the moment which are a skinny 2.3, they are fast rolling and generally excellent in dry conditions. However, when it gets wet they get a bit skitty as one of my friends found out yesterday on wet chalk, a crash that left him with a broken arm.

    Previously I have run Maxxis Minions which were so slow rolling, I didn't realise it was possible to roll to a stop on downhills! They were excellent at cornering in any conditions.

    Before that I had some Tioga's, and they were awful.
  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    I used Vertical Pros for years, and agree with the above. Very fast rolling, light for the size, but wayward when wet. I do like them.
  • clarksonclarkson Posts: 1,641
    edited August 2008
    im using maxxis advantage on my enduro. brilliant tyres. before, it had specialized, i think enduro tyres but dont hold me to it, and they were awful. huge amount of rolling resistance for not much grip. im still surprised at how well the maxxis roll for such a fat tyre.
    I said hit the brakes not the tree!!

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  • dave_hilldave_hill Posts: 3,877
    Nokian NBX Lite 2,3.

    Look great, all the grip of a teflon-coated slidy thing.
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  • chrispschrisps Posts: 60
    I'm not a fan of Bontrager Jones XR fronts. I found them very skitty in most conditions. They are quite good rollers though.

    I have now switched to Conti Mountain King 2.4 Black Chillis, which I have found superbly confident in pretty much everything except very sloshy mud
  • SDK2007SDK2007 Posts: 782
    Maybe not an All Mountain tyre but Specialized Resolutions grip like soap on a wet floor. They roll well and are fairly light though. Most of the tyres from Specialized seem to be built for longevity rather than grip.

    Eskar tyres are okay but again there are more grippy tyres out there, albeit heavier.
  • grantwaygrantway Posts: 1,430
    Fab replys The Mountain Kings 2.4 that came wih my bike
    was not the Protection and not the Chilli Compound

    SDK2007 yes this seems to be with all Specalized tyres.

    Anybody mix and match there tyres?
  • Michelin 'All Mountain'

    I cannot begin to go in to how bad these are.

    Straight out of the box they had a manufacturing fault which meant the tread wasnt 'straight' all the way round so it looked like you had a huge buckle. Shoudl have sent them back but thought I would use them to hack around. Not worth the effort. Average grip etc etc etc
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  • toastytoasty Posts: 2,598
    SDK2007 wrote:
    Maybe not an All Mountain tyre but Specialized Resolutions grip like soap on a wet floor. They roll well and are fairly light though. Most of the tyres from Specialized seem to be built for longevity rather than grip.

    Eskar tyres are okay but again there are more grippy tyres out there, albeit heavier.

    Would that be the OEM, 70a Resolution Sports though? The Pros grip well enough for what they're competing against, 600 grams, fast rolling, good width, very easy to convert to tubeless (which added tons of grip).

    This may be sounding a bit backwards after pimping Specialized tyres but I found the Nevegals I got an my Avalanche censored . Real shame as I loved them on the Five I demo'd. Soft compound, OEM with a wire bead somehow came out around 1kg each. Bit hefty for an XC oriented bike, it was like pedaling a tractor.
  • shin0rshin0r Posts: 555
    Mountain King 2.4s, I sh*t myself riding these, swapped back to high rollers.
  • capoz77capoz77 Posts: 503
    Conti Vert Pros! damn i love this tyre. Running them front and back, they just roll so fast and the grip is outstanding and *touches wood* are snake bite, puncture/bomb proof!

    until i go over wet roots. :oops: or soggy pine needle forest downhills :oops: anything really slippy and they fail.

    To be fair I very rarely do either of the above so they have furnished my bike for over a year.

    Anyone found a step up from them? 2.3 gripping width but roll like 2.1's AND only weigh 610 grams! 8) . High Rollers come to mind but never tried them.
  • bluechair84bluechair84 Posts: 4,352
    My comments have already been mentioned - but the Michelin All Mountains are not to be used on any part of the mountain. Except under circumstances where tyres would need to be burnt to attract far off planes to come and rescue you. They would do well to be burnt on a mountain.... but nothing else.
    Tioga DHs are chav tyres and don't work either.
    I now use Maxxis highrollers and they are just fabtastic! I sometimes swap to a minion on the front at trail centres and DH course and the bike just rips the trail apart. I used to use a minion on the rear as well until I realised that It was too big for the frame...
  • toastytoasty Posts: 2,598
    Yeah, I do love my High Rollers. I did find the 2.1" far too narrow though and the 2.35" to be a bit on the hefty side. They are the wire bead though (840g).

    Maxxis mysteriously think their UST 2.35" come in at 650g, I think there's been a bit of a typo there, given 2.1" are heavier.

    The Nobby Nics I'm using at the mo aren't bad, fairly wide too, 2.4" comes in at 635g and they've held up converted tubeless for a month or so. Not sure how long they'll last, the second they die the High Rollers will be back on :) I do think they're a bit overrated for being so expensive.
  • passoutpassout Posts: 4,425
    I had a Giant that came with hutchinson Bulldogs 2.3s - they were awful. Grip wasn't great and they punctured for fun.
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  • GibboGTGibboGT Posts: 287
    I must admit I really don't like my nevegals. Massive rolling resistance and they make so much noise on anything that is remotely dry.

    And I do find that the rear slips sideways quite easily. Maybe thats just my fault though :oops: Rubbish if they hit a root or a wet rock / pebble.
  • Steve_b77Steve_b77 Posts: 1,680
    Specialized EsKars are most totally pants, grip when up right and when leaned right over but nowt inbetween and seem to drag like an anchor.

    Also tried Maxxis High Rollers in 42a, my bad way too sticky for front and back.

    Conti Mountian kings are pretty good but don't last very long so now I'm gonna try the Maxxis Ignitor eXception in 2.35 that have just turned up, about 780g's and look proper nice, can't wait to ride on Saturday :D
  • capoz77capoz77 Posts: 503
    high rollers seem a bit heavy?

    for 2.3 foldables 1.7 lbs each! thats 3.4 lbs on bike weight just for tyres :oops:
  • bluechair84bluechair84 Posts: 4,352
    aaah, there's nothing like a good complaint to feel British again.


    All I need is some rain! Ooh Ooh! Aaaah that feels British now. Just put the kettle on for a brew...
  • Yukon LadYukon Lad Posts: 423
    I quite like my nevegals but have had a bad slip on a root once, faceplanted pretty hard, thanks god it was on the altura trail after rain, the ground to the side was soft but stank.

    Am going to change to high rollers when my kendas wear out.

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  • grantwaygrantway Posts: 1,430
    You guys realy need to try the Fat Alberts for general All Mountain
    Fantastic grip through out the radius of the tyre and very fast
    Ables me to ride flat out and on the tight corners :wink:
  • grantwaygrantway Posts: 1,430
    So now we know what we dont like now lets tell what we do like
    and where you ride them.
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