Maxxis Ignitor Tubeless

Gavin C
Gavin C Posts: 57
edited May 2008 in MTB buying advice
Think Im going to invest in some tubeless tyre...... Ignitor LUSTSs appear fine

Any thoughts as this is my first foray into tubeless......what sort of pressure do you put them to

Just tried Stans with my panaracers and one of my tyres is just too porous despite the vast quantitys of stans being chucked in.....

Thanks for the advice
G

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  • stumpyjon
    stumpyjon Posts: 3,983
    I went for these about a month ago (my first tubeless tyres as well). So far OK running on Shimano XT wheels (UST compatible) but:
      1. Were fairly easy to put on (compared to some of the horror stories I've heard) but didn't seat properly first time (my fault needed to over inflate them to seat them and then let them down a bit). 2. Front one went down after about three weeks of riding, now got some Geax sealent in it and it seems fine (will do the back one when I get time). 3. Found them a bit sketchy on loose corners, had the front wheel nearly go a couple of times (or that may be down to me trying to push myself a bit more :oops: ) 4. Had a nightmare trying to get hold of them, everywhere was out of stock, things may be different now. 5. Otherwise seem fine, certainly light, bike seems to accelerate very well. 6. Running them at around 40 psi at the moment.
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  • Gavin C
    Gavin C Posts: 57
    Thanks for the advice...just ordered them in stock from Chain Reaction........hope I've got enough Stans left after I poured half my liquid into a lost cause panaracer

    Will just use the current tyres in my old (get to work) hardtail.....helps me justify the purchase!

    Surprised though at 40psi thought tubeless ran much flatter than that

    G
  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    I've had them on my bike for 9 months now. Easy to fit, light for a UST tyre and only need one scoop of sealant in case of thorns since the tyres are airtight to begin with.

    You can run them at pretty much any pressure you want but as SJ says above, make sure you put them up to about 60psi to make sure they seat fully. leave them overnight and then let them back down to where you want.

    The thing about pressures in tubeless is that the tyre is much more compliant at 40psi than a tube tyre. As a starting point, try 40psi in the rear to keep your rolling resistance reasonable and 35psi in the front for a bit more grip. See how that feels and adjust from there.

    As ever with new tyres, don't go mad until you've got the measure of them and some pressures you're happy with!
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  • S_J_P
    S_J_P Posts: 908
    I fitted an Ignitor LUST last week and found it an absolute cinch to fit tubeless. Two one-handed pumps and it was seated. I find it a good tyre in the dryer conditions on my trails at the moment, and I find it much better than the High Roller I have on the rear which isn't impressing me at the moment :?

    As you're using UST tyres with a pre-sealed sidewall you won't need too much sealant, I seem to remember Splasher recommending 50 ml?

    BTW I'm running 40 psi at the moment (as it's quite dry out there) in the back and 35psi in the front which seems to work for me. When conditions were wetter and with Bonty Mud X's I was running 5psi less each end. As tubeless tyres are so much more flexible and compliant at a given pressure compared to tubed tyres, the improved comfort factor is a real boon.
  • artillerydave
    artillerydave Posts: 715
    Gavin C wrote:
    Just tried Stans with my panaracers and one of my tyres is just too porous despite the vast quantitys of stans being chucked in...

    Panaracers are noted as being unsuitable for conversion to tubeless due to their slack beads, the do however have a couple of UST tyres now which I'm sure would be fine.
  • Splasher
    Splasher Posts: 1,528
    I use 50ml of Stans and it does the trick BUT remember guys it doesn't last for ever. I add another 50ml at 6 months. My tyres never seem to make it to a year without having to come off the rim for another reason (worn out, pinched sidewall, or most recently crashed, ripped the bead off and filled the tyre with muck) but if they did, I would remove them and clean them out completely at 12 months to avoid them getting heavier and heavier as you add more and more sealant.

    The above seems to work for me but it's not particularly scientific, just based on trial and error.
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