Mongoose Tyax Elite (07) New tyres help please!

LaurenceGough
LaurenceGough Posts: 218
edited March 2008 in MTB buying advice
Hey guys,

Looking for a new pair of tyres for my Mongoose Tyax Elite (07). I'm still using the standard tires.

I still find the tyres are giving to much rolling resistance, make a hell of a lot of noise and it doesn't coast very far (sure I can get more anyway).


I'm using it for 98% on road on the way to work and back, about 5 miles each way.


Looking at:

http://wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx? ... 5360029997



Would this offer less rolling resistance then the stock tyres?

Would these tyres kill me in the rain? :lol:

I guess the side wall pattern is for grip around corners?

Is the weight less than the standard ones on the Mongoose?


Thank you ever, ever so much for your help!
Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
Carrera Limited Edition TDF

Full suspension - King of the forest!

If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).

Comments

  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Can't get the link to load, but the slicker the tyre, the grippier it is on smooth tarmac esp when cornering. Paradoxically has the least rolling resistance too.
  • Link seems to be working :S.


    Well basicly I cycle on mostly cycle paths, most are bumpy some even have loose gravel/few twigs on.

    Slicks are bad for the rain though right?

    It's for for work so using it everyday no matter the weather. If snowy I would put my old tires back on perhaps.

    Thanks for your help.
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Slicks better in rain on tarmac! But if you are going on bumpier surfaces, may want to consider a wider semi slick, such as a 1.75. Go for kevlar beaded too. But nowt beats a slick on the black stuff in all conditions.
  • Wow sounds good, I just remember on the ol' motorsport that slicks = bad for rain. Guess bike tyres are more round!


    How come the link isn't working for you?

    "Continental City Contact MTB Reflective Tyre"

    Thanks!
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    With bike tyres, it is impossible to aquaplane!

    The contis are good.
  • Ahh good good, any others you recommend?

    Would they fit the Mongoose Tyax Elite fine? What size am I after? Is it best to go to Mongoose's website or just read the tyres I have on there tomorrow?
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    The mongoose has standard 26 inch MTB tyres, or in new speak, 559mm. I'd go for a 26x1.5 (ish).
  • Thank you, I thought I could remember 26".

    We have:

    26x1.5

    26x1.75

    26x2.1

    Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference between these, tyre thickness?

    Thanks!
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Its the width that is the second measurement in inches. Larger ones are heavier, but provide more cushioning. Narrower are lighter and usually faster rolling, but harsher feeling, so its a compromise.
  • Decisions, decisions!

    I go up curbs quite often, but would the width really matter? I have front suspension with dampers so the front would be fine (less bouncy also) but the back has nothing so if I was to go for a wider one up back? Or just the same with less air pressure?
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Its bottoming the tyres on the rim too! Can damage wheels if too narrow and hit hard.
  • supersonic wrote:
    Its bottoming the tyres on the rim too! Can damage wheels if too narrow and hit hard.

    I do find myself hitting the rim some times, I have to admit I should slow down more on curbs. The only two punctures I've had so far were due to curbs.

    My cheapo FS bike could them them fast :). :lol:

    So what's best for curbs, narrow and pumped a lot?
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Wider and pumped up a lot! If in doubt, get a bigger tyre.
  • Ah wider, got ya, so the tyre wall is the same thickness then? Just different width.

    Also I presume the width would have to match the tire?!? Or would it bulge outwards?

    What is the stock width on the Mongoose tyres?


    Is it okay to have a thicker one on the back and narrow one on the front? I can lift the front tyre fine over bumps but the back one I sometimes miss-time. :).
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    You can chop and change. The mongoose wheels will be fine with anything from 1.5 to 2.4.
  • Okay thanks for your help super, I'll keep this thread open for just a bit before I go and buy anything.

    Thank you again!
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • The Spiderman
    The Spiderman Posts: 5,625
    I think you will find any road tyres a massive improvement,but 1.5 is the width most opt for ,offering a good compromise,between comfort and speed.

    I have a road bike with 70 x 25c tyre slicks that just about copes with being ridden,on tracks and gravel paths so you`ll be fine with a 26 x 1.5!

    Pump them up hard and you`lll be flying. :lol:
    2006 Giant XTC
    2010 Giant Defy Advanced
    2016 Boardman Pro 29er
    2016 Pinnacle Lithium 4
    2017 Canondale Supersix Evo
  • Yeah that's what I was thinking, I really think the standard tires slow you down on the paths/roads.


    http://wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx? ... ail%20Tyre

    Thinking about these ones also, what is the rolling resistance like compared? 2.2 width only so a lot more I presume?

    As taking a whole tire on and off is pretty hard just for say a hours fun in the forest.

    Really not sure what to go for! I don't go in the forest much but when I do it's great fun.

    I tell you what, reading all this stuff about pumping the tires up for the road gets me thinking, I'm only running about 20-30psi in my wheels atm, so if I was to put the max rating in them it would help a load anyway!

    I'll go and pump them up now to the max rating (guess :D).
    Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite 2010
    Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007
    Carrera Limited Edition TDF

    Full suspension - King of the forest!

    If anyone rides in Sulham Wood give me a shout :).
  • The Spiderman
    The Spiderman Posts: 5,625
    Off road I run mine at 35-40psi.On road I `d be using 45psi or more at least.
    My roadbike runs at 100psi.Massive difference to rolling resistance.
    For road use any pair of 1.5 slicks by a decent trye brand like,Panaracer,Continental,Specialized,Maxxis ,etc will be fine.
    2006 Giant XTC
    2010 Giant Defy Advanced
    2016 Boardman Pro 29er
    2016 Pinnacle Lithium 4
    2017 Canondale Supersix Evo
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Pressure is the key to rolling resistance - narower tyres can be pumped up harder. Pluss narrower tyres are more aerdynamic.
  • BlackSpur
    BlackSpur Posts: 4,228
    I would reccomend Conti Travel Contacts. Low rolling resistance, but side knobs mean they can cope with light off road - perfect for gravelly/twiggy paths!
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  • punkypossum
    punkypossum Posts: 660
    Schwalbe Marathons? Appear to be pretty much bombproof on the puncture front and get great reviews...
    One day, I'm going to buy a cottage in a small village and become its idiot!