Tour Down Under - Any Thoughts?
Seems team High Horse has come out of the blocks screaming. Any thoughts? What say you Iain?
Greipel to overshadow Ciolek and Cavendish?
Has McEwen jumped the shark?
Or is this just a nonesense meaningless race overshadowed ignored by the "real" cycling fraternity.
Greipel to overshadow Ciolek and Cavendish?
Has McEwen jumped the shark?
Or is this just a nonesense meaningless race overshadowed ignored by the "real" cycling fraternity.
It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
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Every stage ended in a sprint didn't it? IMO makes it a bit boring, and no one really wins by a decent margin, won by time bonuses.
Could have done with some difficult stages where breakaways could have stopped away.
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It's a race that desperately needs a TT in it. Maybe not a long one but just something to get a few gaps and maybe we'll end up with more of a race? 15km or so would do it. I also wish it was a bit more hilly. That's why I always liked Langkawi but there is no Genting Highlands this year so it'll probably end up being lame
It gets good crowds so I reckon they should tinker with the formula a bit.
As for High Horse.....Greipel seems good, but he's still a 2nd tier sprinter. Ciolek must be the High Horser closest to making the leap into the upper echelons of sprinters.
In future years I'd expect a few more senior pros to attend now that it has gained Pro Tour status. I haven't seen any criticism of the organising of the event and everything seems to have went well and all the riders and teams needs well catered for.
Overall it is a fun week and lots of families attended and many cyclists participated in the various events organised round about it - so it was a worthwhile exercise. Onwards and upwards as they say.
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A TT wouldn't be that great either. Whoever won the TT would just win the overall too because the other stages would still end in bunch sprints. They either need to find some new climbs or do a Tour of Poland and use the same hill 3 or 4 times in a single stage.
As for Greipel, 4 wins is impressive, but who was he sprinting against? Mark Renshaw and Allan Davis, who raced properly for over a year. Dunno where McEwen was... He's still behind Cavendish and Ciolek in the High Horse hierarchy.
Iain: They took Genting out of the TdL this year but replaced it with the Fraser Highlands, which is still a 30km climb!
I don't see anything wrong with a sprinter's stage race but, I would add many more intermediate sprints to liven things up more. I definitely would not add a TT. The time of year and terrain suit the type of racing we saw.
It was great to see some racing again in the bike news.
This is the critical part. I doubt if any of the riders really want a course which will burn them out at the very start of their European campaign though I'm sure there is scope to put in a more challenging terrain without killing the riders.
I don't agree with introducing a TT, particularly in shorter stage races. A winning margin by 20 or 30 seconds could secure the whole race by allowing the race leaders team to close down the whole race thereafter fairly easy. Even though sprinters are dominant in this race, the intermediate bonuses means that the racing is fairly lively in between.
It wil take time for this ProTour status to develop but it is a well organised event and has the makings to develop a lot more. Importantly, I don't believe it will be one of these 'here today, gone tomorrow' events, the South Australian Govt put a lot of resources into it and the majority of the population take pride in it being on their doorstep.
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But if you look at things like the Tour of the Med or Challenge Majorca, they're quite often very hilly. I think the challenge in general is the time of year - Like Cadel said, it's way too early for a GT type guy to do anything. Ok, if it's just a training race then it could be a sedate way to get some miles in but it's not really being promoted as a training race.
And if people are racing it hard the bigger names will stay away. And there was that French guy who considered it punishment being send to Oz.
It's a difficult situation.
It is a difficult situation but there really is a will to make a success of this event so its not improbable things could happen in future years.
, French eh, didn't he know that this was considered justice for many an Englishman several years ago.
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I don't really think burn-out is an issue. No-one is talking about monster mountain stages (not that there are any), but just something that will reward attacking riders. Just look at this year's race - top class riders like Philippe Gilbert and David Moncoutié both showed a willingness to ride aggressively, but the terrain simply made it impossible. There is no reward for attacking if you know the sprinters will still be in the bunch after the only climb in the entire race.
For sure, it is a well organised race but many more Europeans are following what's going on in Melbourne at the tennis than in this race.
But it is growing and should become a better event. The organisers should try to respond with a better course too.
I agree. Cyclingnews was an Aussie website for most of its existence, hence perhaps they cover that racing scene more, have more reporters connected to it?
Titanium, who is the guy in Stars and Stripes on your profile? Is it you? Or who is it? Anyway, good to see you posting on here...I take back what I said before about your conclusions on Op Puerto...the media have been proven correct in full it seems
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Tour Down Under to make a tougher course
By Susan Westemeyer
Sprinters have dominated the Tour Down Under over its ten-year history, with all six stages this year coming down to a mass sprint. Race Director Mike Turtur admitted that it was finally time to make some changes and make the race more demanding.
He had hoped that the Old Wallunga Hill climb in the fifth stage would break things up a bit, which it did to a certain extent, but there was still a roughly 40-man strong mass sprint.
"The race held together more so than we've ever experienced before," he said. "Certainly, we'll be looking at a more demanding course for next year. In the old days, we might have had blowouts of 15 or 20 minutes from the main group, but we didn't see any of that this year. Now our challenge is to introduce changes to the course that are going to reflect the quality and provide the challenge for all the riders – sprinters and climbers – and have a bit of everything for everyone."
Two former winners had suggestions as to how to make things harder. Stuart O'Grady, calling the premiere ProTour version of the race a "bit of a sprinter fest," wanted the stages to be longer, but not harder. Patrick Jonker called for a mountain-top finish.
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