So what are?

sadjack

Sportives and Audax.

and whats the difference?

New and learning...

Rob Sallnow

I was just about to tell you to search this section as someone asked the same thing only a couple of days ago but then saw it wass on a different forum!!

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6978

sadjack

Thanks for that Rob, a perfect answer. Looks like another forum I'm gonna have to join!!

Crapaud

See also here.

IMO the main differences are that cyclosportives are faster and the distances are up to ~200km (the only one I've found at that distance is the Dave Lloyd Mega challenge. Audax (official, proper audax) starts at 200km. Don't be deceived by the low minimum speed limit, it includes time for cake stops, pu****res, mechanicals etc.

I tend to think of them, possibly simplistically, as a stage race and an endurance challenge.

(Audax also has 'Brevet Populaires' of similar distances to cyclosportives, but start at 50km to 100 and 150km, but they're not classed as proper audaxes, but are organised in a similar fashion.)

Russell Smith

This should do the trick

Audax is a style of long distance cycling event mostly in France, but also in Holland, Belgium and Germany to a lesser extent. The term is now also commonly used to describe a different style of long distance cycling event found in many countries including France, Great Britain, Australia, Canada and the USA.

The original form of the audax style involves riding in strict group formation at a steady pace set by a road captain. The group attempts to maintain a pace of 22.5km/h between stops. The route is pre-planned with designated stopping points. For longer audax events the group may ride between 16 and 20 hours in a day before stopping at a designated sleeping location. The goal of is to finish inside the prescribed time limit with all members of the group present. A support vehicle is allowed to follow each group of riders.[citation needed]

In some countries such as Australia and Great Britain, the term Audax is also used for randonnées. These are also long distance bicycle events, but riders are free to cycle at their own pace (French: allure libre), stop or sleep wherever they want and form groups randomly, provided they stay within the time limit.

The national organising bodies for allure libre riding in these counties (Audax Australia and Audax UK) both include the word 'audax' in their names. In addition, Audax Club Parisien now holds events such as the PBP for the allure libre style, not the original audax style.[citation needed]

This has contributed to some confusion over the use of the term 'audax'.[citation needed]

The allure libre style is also favoured in the USA, where the governing body is the Randonneurs USA.


In the sport of randonneuring, a brevet or randonnée is an organised long-distance bicycle ride. Cyclists - who, in this discipline, may be referred to as randonneurs - follow a designated but unmarked route (usually 200km to 1400km), passing through check-point controls, and must complete the course within specified time limits. These limits, while challenging, still allow the ride to be completed at a comfortable pace - there is no requirement to cycle at racing speeds or employ road bicycle racing strategies.

Randonnée is a French word which loosely translates to 'ramble or 'long journey'. Brevet means 'certificate' and refers to the card carried by randonneurs which gets stamped at controls; it is also used to refer to the event itself, ie: a certificated ride.

In Great Britain and Australia the term audax is also used for brevets, although this term actually designates a different kind of long distance bicycling, see Audax. The French brevet club is called "Audax Club Parisien", which increases the confusion.

Randonneurs do not compete against other cyclists; randonnées are a test of endurance, self-sufficiency and bicycle touring skills. Riders are expected to carry appropriate clothing for inclement weather, spare parts and tools needed for likely repairs. Brevets frequently involve night riding, when participants are required to carry lights, spare bulbs and reflective gear. No specialist bicycle is required; most riders use either a racing bicycle or a fast touring bicycle - several manufacturers provide models with a Randonneur or Audax name to reflect their target market. Those are usually racing bicycles with mounts for a baggage carrier and mudguards. On many brevets recumbents and velomobiles can be seen, as these types of bicycles are well suited for long distances.


What is Cyclo Sportive?

Cyclo Sportives (sometimes spelled Cyclo Sportifs but correctly Cyclosportives, since the full name is randonnée cyclosportive and randonnée is a female noun in French) are long distance, organised, mass-participation cycling events - not races - typically held annually. Sportives are the cycling cousin of running’s marathon: as with the 26-mile event, rather than racing other participants, sportives see cyclists challenge themselves in a personal battle against the distance and then ultimately, the clock.

A cyclosportive falls between a traditional road race and a non-competitive randonnée or Audax event. Riders normally carry a number and the time they take to complete the course is recorded. There is usually an upper time limit within which the course must be completed (unlike many randonnée events, there is no lower limit preventing riders from completing the course quickly). The already lengthy course will traditionally include climbs and difficult riding conditions, adding to the kudos of the event (e.g. the cobblestones of the Paris-Roubaix).

The routes will usually be well sign-posted and/or marshalled (some cyclosportives take place on roads which have been closed to motor traffic for the duration of the event), riders will be able to use feeding stations positioned at intervals along the route to replenish their food and drink supplies and mechanical and medical support may also be provided. Some attract thousands of participants - since 2000 l'Etape du Tour has offered places to 8,500 riders each year.

kilotogo

A couple of well known web-sites "borrowed" our input which I recognise here on this topic. For the original and maintained version you may want to look here: http://www.kilotogo.com/faqs.htm

If you want one line I would say Audax are more self sufficient whereas cyclosportives provide more sevices for riders on the day.

Hope it helps you.

skavanagh.bikeradar

As someone who entered cycling via Sportives 4 years ago I'd say that they are the perfect hybrid of Audax and 'proper' racing.