Do you ride HT or FS?
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I know what you mean, what I meant that some people use it as an excuse.
Also, I wonder if who many people have tried FS and then went back to HT? I suppose the best thing would be to have both, so you can then choose depending on what course your riding
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I'd like to try a FS bike to see how I'd like it, I've never even ridden one.
It would have to be pretty good though to make me want to lose the clean lines of the direct chain run of a Rohloff equipped HTI am a mountain biking god.
Unfortunately, my bike's an atheist.0 -
Matteeboy wrote:Travis - not at all.
Cost has nothing to do with it.
If I needed to spend £4k on a bike, I would.
The whole "can't afford it" thing REALLY gets on my nerves. :roll:
I just re - read what i wrote, i suppose i havent even thought about it, first thing i think about is 'HT not FS' so being able to afford one is me just going with the flow of things
Conclusion i prefer HT
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Hey chilled - sorry. Got a little bit OTT.
I prefer HT whatever the budget.
FS has it's place but it's not the essential must have that the media and industry try to make us believe.
I've ridden a XC FS and a full on DH FS - I preferred the former (by MILES) but it still felt too fragile and vague.0 -
I currently ride a HT, and love it, but I'm in the market for a new bike, so I'm just contemplating FS. Still don't know about getting a carbon framed HT, or FS. I ride a Voodoo at the moment, because it's Steel tubing! I like the stiffness, but I have some multiday events next year, so I'm worrying about fatigue, and thats my only reason I've thought about FS0
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Won't the extra weight and energy lost through bob negate any advantages over rough stuff?
Sounds like you might need something like an Epic.
My old Stumpy is steel and I still love the ride of it even though it's ten years old!0 -
Just bought an FS so I'll let you know when I get it
Pretty poor on a HT but not bad on a cross bike so I'll be curious to see how the FS preforms.
Rode the South Downs last year and people thought us mad to do it on hardtails. Apart from numbs hands and a sore back it wasn't too bad. Paul0 -
Sore back? I've never had one!
Numbs hands? Thats what my Fox forks cure.
Having ridden fully rigid until recently, I think HT "problems" are mostly in the mind.0 -
Might also be that I ride a 19in hardtail when I really need a 21 or 22 in. Paul0
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Bought a marin alpine trail but then i got influenced by billy trailstar from dirt mag
All the marin parts are now on an on-one inbred 456 frame. I was quicker on my marin round cwm-carn, it was more comfy, but its much more fun on a HT. FS literally sucks the fun up from the trail.
so yes people do go from FS to HT but not for the sensible reasons!
I now have a marin alpine trail frame/shock + lots of extras for sale 0 -
HT evry time - got a fully rigid explosif, 20lbs, fun, fast and cheap, no DIY maintenance. What else do you want?"You're not hardcore until you live hardcore"0
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how about a bit of both, if i ride hardtail it's a s/s, but if i'm doing an epic it's always FS, i find traction uphill better as well with that.
oh and i've just bought a new bike as well. see below in sig.0 -
HT - but never ridden a FS.
Wouldn't mind a go just to compare.0 -
full sus 
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I've just got mine and it's great, although I did go for a designated XC FS rather then a general purpose FS. (Trek Top Fuel 9)
So much more traction and far better balanced although it's a larger frame to my hardtail (21.5 to a 19) .
I'm really very impressed as I've always been a bit of a skeptic on FS bikes so I was chuffed to bits after the first ride and found myself going faster over the ground then I would of done on the hardtail.Paul0 -
Both but mainly the fs. Not for speed but comfort as knee joints, lower back and ankles have taken a hammering and taking a handful of painkillers after a ride started to lose its appeal!!!!!!!!!
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Hardtail because it's hardcore.
Well it stops you from being lazy and makes you stand up.0 -
Ive rode both,just sold my Commencal VIP S full susser,and went back to a HT,Im faster and can feel better whats going on underneath me.0
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I had a Specialized Epic for a couple of days on demo but ended going with my Scott Scale 30. No pivots to work about, no mucking about with pressures in shocks and loads of smugness when i ride stuff my mates on full sus dont 0
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it depends on the course/where you ride...i suppose. im about to make the leap into FS with the 08 trek fuel ex 6.5, but the reason im going for an FS is because i live in sunny cumbria which is (generally) quite rough! so the fox rp23 shock on the back should hopefully help save the old lower back from a bit of agony!!!!0
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fully :P0
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FS is better for me generally as I'm on the heavy side. I love the HT experience but only up to about an hour otherwise I feel as though I've been kicked in the kidneys
Most XC races are won on HT - so ...0 -
I rekon HT are better feel more in control.0
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Never had this HT backache thing people talk about.
I'm sure that more down to posture than having rear suspension (or not)?0 -
Yep agree with that boys. hardtail riders who suffer with that haven't got their bikes set up properly IMHO.
Keep flirting with buying FS frame 'cos my rides are always 3hrs + and buying into whole FS comfort stuff.
Don't need it though.I hate it when people say David Beckham's stupid...its not like anyone ever says: 'Stephen Hawking - he's s**t at football.' Paul Calf0 -
I think it maybe the comfort thing I am looking for, my rides tend to be 6 hours or so, and a lot of it is really Rocky terrain, so by the end of it, my legs are just shot from standing up the whole time.
But... I race, and the races are quite short, only up to 58km, so I think I may go with a Carbon HT, a little give so take out the real bumps!0 -
Why not just strap an armchair to the bike for proper comfort?!0
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Carbon or Titanium framed?0
