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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Chris Bass » Sun Sep 15, 2019 15:41 pm

Veronese68 wrote:
Chris Bass wrote:
briantrumpet wrote:That I've been mispronouncing the musical term 'adagio' all my musical life: an Italian speaker told me that the 'i' merely softens the 'g', so that the pronunciation is "adajjo", not "adajjeo".


is this always the case in Italian? so would the footballer Roberto Baggio be pronounced Roberto Bajjo - If so I have been saying his name wrong my whole life - not that I have said it that often in fairness!

Yes, also in Italian an h after a c hardens the c sound so it is like a ck in English.


Does that mean i'd be Ckris? It looks pretty similar i suppose
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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Lagrange » Sun Sep 15, 2019 15:45 pm

Mouth wrote:That the average North Sea cod is 53kg when caught.



No it isn't.

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby TailWindHome » Sun Sep 15, 2019 15:46 pm

That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.
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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby rjsterry » Sun Sep 15, 2019 16:11 pm

TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


It's just simple multiplication, which is commutative - 30 x 0.01 x 50 = 50 x 0.01 x 30.
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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby TailWindHome » Sun Sep 15, 2019 16:46 pm

rjsterry wrote:
TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


It's just simple multiplication, which is commutative - 30 x 0.01 x 50 = 50 x 0.01 x 30.


I get how it works.

Just one of those things that come up when your own children are being taught maths and in particular strategies in tackling 11 plus questions.
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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby david7m » Sun Sep 15, 2019 16:59 pm

Also CIMA and didn't know that.

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby eric draven » Sun Sep 15, 2019 18:08 pm

Mouth wrote:That the average North Sea cod is 53kg when caught.

would have thought 5.3kg would have been more average,as 53kg would be the max they grow to, a 15kg one on rod and line boat angling is considered a big fish

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Ballysmate » Sun Sep 15, 2019 19:56 pm

TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


And they say exams have not been dumbed down. :?

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby awavey » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:11 pm

eric draven wrote:
Mouth wrote:That the average North Sea cod is 53kg when caught.

would have thought 5.3kg would have been more average,as 53kg would be the max they grow to, a 15kg one on rod and line boat angling is considered a big fish


nope according to the internet, 53kg is the average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_cod , the largest ever found was 96kg and 6ft, thats bigger than me :shock:

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby TailWindHome » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:24 pm

Ballysmate wrote:
TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


And they say exams have not been dumbed down. :?


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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby darkhairedlord » Sun Sep 15, 2019 20:40 pm

awavey wrote:
eric draven wrote:
Mouth wrote:That the average North Sea cod is 53kg when caught.

would have thought 5.3kg would have been more average,as 53kg would be the max they grow to, a 15kg one on rod and line boat angling is considered a big fish


nope according to the internet, 53kg is the average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_cod , the largest ever found was 96kg and 6ft, thats bigger than me :shock:

You source doesn't say 53kg. It also doesn't state if average adult or average weight of caught fish.

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Chris Bass » Sun Sep 15, 2019 21:09 pm

TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


you have, just not that exact thing and you didn't connect the dots - you were told how to calculate a percentage (either multiplying by 1/100 or just dividing by 100) and you were taught that multiplication and division were, mostly, commutative (matrix multiplication, for example, is not)
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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Veronese68 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 21:10 pm

david7m wrote:Also CIMA and didn't know that.

If referring to Italian pronunciation it would be spelt more like cheema to get the English to pronounce it correctly.
The Ckris bit is right, although Chris is an oddity in terms of English. Chips if it were Italian would be pronounced kips, although the i would be longer making it more like keeps.

Regarding average cod are we talking mean, median or mode?

I’m with TWH on the averages, never knew that.

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Lagrange » Mon Sep 16, 2019 06:30 am

That 'learnt' and 'learned' are interchangeable. ...well the single syllable version anyway.

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Tangled Metal » Mon Sep 16, 2019 07:48 am

Ballysmate wrote:
TailWindHome wrote:That percentage calculations can be flipped and give the same answer

30% of 50 is the same as 50% of 30


I have GCSE maths, A level maths and a professional accounting qualification and had never been taught this.


And they say exams have not been dumbed down. :?

I think it's better teaching these days. You were taught three theory behind this but not the specifics back in the day. Now the specifics with clarifications make for these results if the theory being explained.

In my days at school things like number ladders and other techniques to make things easier to get weren't taught. Indeed when my nephew got taught like that I got a surprise. Spoon fed perhaps?

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Poptart242 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 07:55 am

That if you drop a carbon bike off the roof at 60+mph, it might actually survive. :shock:

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Robert88 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 07:58 am

Poptart242 wrote:That if you drop a carbon bike off the roof at 60+mph, it might actually survive. :shock:


you cycle at 60 mph down roofs :shock:

I take it your parachute opened?

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Poptart242 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 08:01 am

Robert88 wrote:I take it your parachute opened?


No parachute, but my pants became less aerodynamic watching events unfold in the rear view mirror

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Tangled Metal » Mon Sep 16, 2019 08:43 am

Poptart242 wrote:
Robert88 wrote:I take it your parachute opened?


No parachute, but my pants became less aerodynamic watching events unfold in the rear view mirror

Just admitted on a public forum that you've driven with an unsafe load! At least you won't get caught doing it by the police. :D

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Re: Things you have recently learnt

Postby Poptart242 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 08:54 am

Tangled Metal wrote:Just admitted on a public forum that you've driven with an unsafe load! At least you won't get caught doing it by the police. :D


Full disclosure here, I can't see how it wasn't my mistake so it seems right to own up to it. Luckily, no harm done to anything other than my own property and for that I'm equal parts lucky, grateful, and sorry.


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