Carbon Clinchers

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Dannbodge
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Carbon Clinchers

Postby Dannbodge » Fri Aug 30, 2019 08:49 am

I've currently got some Cosine 45mm Carbon clinchers that I want to replace.

I've got about £1200 to spend.

I've narrowed it down to either Roval CL50s (£1200) or Prime Black Edition 50s (£720).

My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?

Are there any others I should consider - 50mm deep, around 1500g (I do not want Hunts).

yellowv2
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby yellowv2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 09:06 am

Borg 50’s from The Cycle Clinic.

Matthewfalle
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Matthewfalle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 09:08 am

Dannbodge wrote:(I do not want Hunts).



these are the wisest words anyone apart from MF has typed on here in ages.

for that price bracket also look at Planet X/Selcof - great value, well built (in the same factory as hunt, Wiggle, etc), good spares back up.

Farsport as well.

#clinchin'
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D

smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.

Dannbodge
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Dannbodge » Fri Aug 30, 2019 09:26 am

Matthewfalle wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:(I do not want Hunts).



these are the wisest words anyone apart from MF has typed on here in ages.

for that price bracket also look at Planet X/Selcof - great value, well built (in the same factory as hunt, Wiggle, etc), good spares back up.

Farsport as well.

#clinchin'


I'm not a fan of the Selcof/Px ones

I was going to look at chinese wheels but would prefer the UK based support I'd get from Wiggle/Roval

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Shirley Basso » Fri Aug 30, 2019 09:56 am

What's wrong with the existing wheels?

You may find getting the existing rim rebuilt with nice spokes on a nice, wide-flanged hub makes a large difference.

I imagine the Cosine and Prime wheels are pretty similar.

Joe Totale
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Joe Totale » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:09 am

I've got these which are basically Zipp 303's for half the price and with a more comprehensive warranty:

http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/product-page/dimpled-45

Your budget would allow you to get some pretty nice hubs.

I know a few people with Farsport and Light Bicycle wheels and they're all very happy with them so definitely check them out as well.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby philthy3 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:30 am

Shop around and see if you can get a deal on some Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon SL UST. 40mm rim depth but lightweight for it.
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Camcycle1974 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 13:58 pm

Dannbodge wrote:I've currently got some Cosine 45mm Carbon clinchers that I want to replace.

I've got about £1200 to spend.

I've narrowed it down to either Roval CL50s (£1200) or Prime Black Edition 50s (£720).

My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?

Are there any others I should consider - 50mm deep, around 1500g (I do not want Hunts).


Worth looking at Spokesman Wheels. He imports his own rims to a high spec and then builds them as required. Alternatively you can buy the rims and have them built locally. That's what I did with some of his 38mm's. Great wheels.

Matthewfalle
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Matthewfalle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 14:08 pm

Camcycle1974 wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:I've currently got some Cosine 45mm Carbon clinchers that I want to replace.

I've got about £1200 to spend.

I've narrowed it down to either Roval CL50s (£1200) or Prime Black Edition 50s (£720).

My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?

Are there any others I should consider - 50mm deep, around 1500g (I do not want Hunts).


Worth looking at Spokesman Wheels. He imports the same rims as everyone else from the same factory and then builds them as required. Alternatively you can buy the rims from him or any of the other wheel builders or planet x or whover and have them built locally. That's what I did with some of his 38mm's. Great wheels.


ftfy - hope thats ok.

#panacea
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D

smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Paul1000 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 15:03 pm

Spin industries

Luv2ride
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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Luv2ride » Fri Aug 30, 2019 17:19 pm

Camcycle1974 wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:I've currently got some Cosine 45mm Carbon clinchers that I want to replace.

I've got about £1200 to spend.

I've narrowed it down to either Roval CL50s (£1200) or Prime Black Edition 50s (£720).

My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?

Are there any others I should consider - 50mm deep, around 1500g (I do not want Hunts).


Worth looking at Spokesman Wheels. He imports his own rims to a high spec and then builds them as required. Alternatively you can buy the rims and have them built locally. That's what I did with some of his 38mm's. Great wheels.


Another vote for Spokesman Wheels here (have some 50mm disc wheels which have been great). Was also a pleasure to deal with. There's a chap on here with an Emonda (Bianchi Dave?) who went for 38's from him, and think he rated them too...
Scott Solace 10 disc - Kinesis Crosslight Pro6 disc - Scott CR1 SL - Tifosi CK7 - Pinnacle Arkose 1x11 "monster cross" - Specialized Singlecross...& an Ernie Ball Musicman Stingray 4 string...

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Dannbodge » Fri Aug 30, 2019 17:31 pm

Luv2ride wrote:
Camcycle1974 wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:I've currently got some Cosine 45mm Carbon clinchers that I want to replace.

I've got about £1200 to spend.

I've narrowed it down to either Roval CL50s (£1200) or Prime Black Edition 50s (£720).

My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?

Are there any others I should consider - 50mm deep, around 1500g (I do not want Hunts).


Worth looking at Spokesman Wheels. He imports his own rims to a high spec and then builds them as required. Alternatively you can buy the rims and have them built locally. That's what I did with some of his 38mm's. Great wheels.


Another vote for Spokesman Wheels here (have some 50mm disc wheels which have been great). Was also a pleasure to deal with. There's a chap on here with an Emonda (Bianchi Dave?) who went for 38's from him, and think he rated them too...


I'll have a look but ideally I want them for an event on the 14th. Spokesman is closed until after that.

Silly excuse I know but never mind.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby MrB123 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 17:41 pm

Light Bicycle with the graphene brake track and your choice of hubs.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby bobones » Fri Aug 30, 2019 19:11 pm

Search on Amazon for carbon clinchers with Prime and you’ll find quite a few Chinese options that are fulfilled by Amazon, i.e. shipped from UK warehouse with warranty support from Amazon.

There are some 1300g clinchers for around £600, but I got these 50s at 1465g with straight pull Novatec hubs and Sapim CX ray spokes for £545 with next day delivery. They’re really well built and bang on spec and much cheaper than almost identical Prime Black Editions.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carbon-Firber- ... 07CTJWY3B/

The rims are really nicely finished and have no logos but hubs have the usual Novatec red and white logos unlike photos.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby TimothyW » Fri Aug 30, 2019 19:20 pm

Dannbodge wrote:My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?


No.

I mean, what are we talking about here? £500? You could buy a set of these with the money you save - https://www.wiggle.co.uk/prime-rr-50-se ... -wheelset/

I'm not sure either of them are worth it versus the Cosine wheels you already have though. What's wrong with them?

If it's just about 5mm extra depth and 5mm extra width then you probably need to have a word with yourself.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Matthewfalle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 19:49 pm

TimothyW wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:My question is are the Rovals going to be worth the extra money?


No.

I mean, what are we talking about here? £500? You could buy a set of these with the money you save - https://www.wiggle.co.uk/prime-rr-50-se ... -wheelset/

I'm not sure either of them are worth it versus the Cosine wheels you already have though. What's wrong with them?

If it's just about 5mm extra depth and 5mm extra width then you probably need to have a word with yourself.


but the fast chain gang fast group at the club said that 5mm difference made my wheels outdated and useless.

WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH?

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Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D

smithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Franco di Banco » Fri Aug 30, 2019 20:28 pm

Whats wrong with what you have?
Spend your money by all means, but what are you trying to achieve? You have good wheels now.

Buy new wheels and get into the latest is best mentality. But then you will have to buy next year's must have wheels. And the year after......

You are are unlikely to be singled out for a pro contract, you wouldn't be asking on here if you were that good. So why throw money at a non existent problem? There is no indication that your present wheels are in any way inadequate. Stick with them and save yourself some money.

As the man said...when you strike oil, stop drilling.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Webboo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 20:40 pm

You can’t beat advice from a tight fisted pensioner.

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Shipley » Fri Aug 30, 2019 20:43 pm

Matthewfalle wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:(I do not want Hunts).



these are the wisest words anyone apart from MF has typed on here in ages.'


As a matter of interest.....what’s the problem with Hunt wheels ??

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Re: Carbon Clinchers

Postby Franco di Banco » Fri Aug 30, 2019 20:56 pm

Shipley wrote:
Matthewfalle wrote:
Dannbodge wrote:(I do not want Hunts).



these are the wisest words anyone apart from MF has typed on here in ages.'


As a matter of interest.....what’s the problem with Hunt wheels ??


There's nothing wrong with Hunts wheels. MF doesn't like them for no apparent reason so misses no opportunity to shout his mouth off, just like every other topic. He is very boring with his self important comments. But every forum has it's idiot.


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