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Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:52 am

Looking at these relatively unknown rebranded chinese carbon wheelsets.

https://www.moriartybikes.com/m-series

Im looking for some 50mm wheels that will support my 95kg weight. Been looking at farsports and light-bicycle aswell but as the moriarty wheels are competitively priced and offer a bit of back up being uk based. If someone with a better understanding can tell me the difference between these and chinese wheelsets that would be great.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby Imposter » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:02 pm

k3vinjam3s wrote: If someone with a better understanding can tell me the difference between these and chinese wheelsets that would be great.


They basically are chinese wheelsets, with some 'local' re-branding. Rim width looks a little on the narrow side, when compared to contemporary 19mm+ internal width options available elsewhere..

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby LakesLuddite » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 pm

k3vinjam3s wrote:Looking at these relatively unknown rebranded chinese carbon wheelsets.

https://www.moriartybikes.com/m-series

Im looking for some 50mm wheels that will support my 95kg weight. Been looking at farsports and light-bicycle as well but as the moriarty wheels are competitively priced and offer a bit of back up being uk based. If someone with a better understanding can tell me the difference between these and chinese wheelsets that would be great.


I have replied to your post on another thread, but essentially - Google 'Zuus wheels' to see a warning from (very recent) history (especially https://road.cc/content/forum/257815-an ... heels-2019). I'm not saying Moriarty is the same, but a relatively small operation in the UK offering extremely good prices for carbon wheelsets is essentially the same MO as Zuus. A warranty is worth jack if the company goes belly up. Caveat emptor.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby g00se » Mon Jun 17, 2019 14:13 pm

Have a look at Prime wheels. Warranty backing by Wiggle/ChainReaction.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 14:14 pm

LakesLuddite wrote:
k3vinjam3s wrote:Looking at these relatively unknown rebranded chinese carbon wheelsets.

https://www.moriartybikes.com/m-series

Im looking for some 50mm wheels that will support my 95kg weight. Been looking at farsports and light-bicycle as well but as the moriarty wheels are competitively priced and offer a bit of back up being uk based. If someone with a better understanding can tell me the difference between these and chinese wheelsets that would be great.


I have replied to your post on another thread, but essentially - Google 'Zuus wheels' to see a warning from (very recent) history (especially https://road.cc/content/forum/257815-an ... heels-2019). I'm not saying Moriarty is the same, but a relatively small operation in the UK offering extremely good prices for carbon wheelsets is essentially the same MO as Zuus. A warranty is worth jack if the company goes belly up. Caveat emptor.


Yes aware of the zuus happenings and it is a concern regarding warranty with small companies.

As for the narrow rim? Is the difference that different? Looking at the clearance on my frame the 23mm external may be better suited anyway. Also the price looks very good and just over £400 for the wheelset is very competitive.

Does anyone recognise the rims or hubs on the moriarty wheelsets?

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 14:15 pm

g00se wrote:Have a look at Prime wheels. Warranty backing by Wiggle/ChainReaction.



Have looked and cant stand the decals. Can be removed but no doubt that will void warranty maybe?

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby Imposter » Mon Jun 17, 2019 14:28 pm

k3vinjam3s wrote:Does anyone recognise the rims or hubs on the moriarty wheelsets?


Hubs look like Bitex, or maybe Novatec. Perfectly good. Prices do look decent overall...

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby g00se » Mon Jun 17, 2019 14:32 pm

k3vinjam3s wrote:
g00se wrote:Have a look at Prime wheels. Warranty backing by Wiggle/ChainReaction.



Have looked and cant stand the decals. Can be removed but no doubt that will void warranty maybe?


Fair enough, but I think the 'dark' decals are less flamboyant.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 15:31 pm

Rims look quite upmarket with the pattern visible (like Mavic). Doesn't mean they are.
Hubs are Bitex, which are OKish.
Construction appears unconventional, maybe just a light effect but seemingly the spokes cross without overlapping on the rear drive side, which is most unusual for J-drilled hubs

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 15:59 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:Rims look quite upmarket with the pattern visible (like Mavic). Doesn't mean they are.
Hubs are Bitex, which are OKish.
Construction appears unconventional, maybe just a light effect but seemingly the spokes cross without overlapping on the rear drive side, which is most unusual for J-drilled hubs


So good value? Or worth paying more from china or primes from wiggle?

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 16:05 pm

k3vinjam3s wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:Rims look quite upmarket with the pattern visible (like Mavic). Doesn't mean they are.
Hubs are Bitex, which are OKish.
Construction appears unconventional, maybe just a light effect but seemingly the spokes cross without overlapping on the rear drive side, which is most unusual for J-drilled hubs


So good value? Or worth paying more from china or primes from wiggle?


People put to much value in warranty. The issues in buying from china are around delivery times/tax and whether you will get scammed (unlikely if you follow advice).
Most issues people moan about can be resolved without need for a warranty, typically for a bag of nuts.

I would have no problem in buying these Moriarty, if that's what you want. If they go bust in six months, you lose the warranty, not a big deal...
400 pounds seems exceedingly cheap

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 16:14 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:
k3vinjam3s wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:Rims look quite upmarket with the pattern visible (like Mavic). Doesn't mean they are.
Hubs are Bitex, which are OKish.
Construction appears unconventional, maybe just a light effect but seemingly the spokes cross without overlapping on the rear drive side, which is most unusual for J-drilled hubs


So good value? Or worth paying more from china or primes from wiggle?


People put to much value in warranty. The issues in buying from china are around delivery times/tax and whether you will get scammed (unlikely if you follow advice).
Most issues people moan about can be resolved without need for a warranty, typically for a bag of nuts.

I would have no problem in buying these Moriarty, if that's what you want. If they go bust in six months, you lose the warranty, not a big deal...
400 pounds seems exceedingly cheap


Thanks for the advice.

As for their low price, are they too good to be true? The company is very new which is a worry concerning them honouring orders if things arent going well for them. I may give them a ring and see what options maybe available regarding deposit etc.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 16:48 pm

Very little information about where they are based...

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Mon Jun 17, 2019 16:52 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:Very little information about where they are based...


Got their info off companies house. Very new. 1st year of trading i think.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby MrB123 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 19:22 pm

Why not email them and ask for more information, ie what hubs, spokes and rims are they using. No reason they shouldn't be open and honest about it.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Tue Jun 18, 2019 07:09 am

MrB123 wrote:Why not email them and ask for more information, ie what hubs, spokes and rims are they using. No reason they shouldn't be open and honest about it.


Have emailed and got good detailed responses. Very good replies confirming wheels built abroad but go through QC here in uk. All well known hubs and spares readily available.

Only thing holding me back is the width of the rims. Is there much difference between the 23mm they offer and other rims that are wider. Reckon max i can get on my frame is 25mm.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby ugo.santalucia » Tue Jun 18, 2019 08:09 am

k3vinjam3s wrote:
MrB123 wrote:Why not email them and ask for more information, ie what hubs, spokes and rims are they using. No reason they shouldn't be open and honest about it.


Have emailed and got good detailed responses. Very good replies confirming wheels built abroad but go through QC here in uk. All well known hubs and spares readily available.

Only thing holding me back is the width of the rims. Is there much difference between the 23mm they offer and other rims that are wider. Reckon max i can get on my frame is 25mm.


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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby Matt_N » Thu Jun 20, 2019 19:26 pm

I actually really like the look of them and have emailed to ask if they can supply with a Campag freehub, I know it’s easily swapped but I want it to be supplied, just over £400 for the 50mm seems good VFM to me and more representative of the price versus getting them direct from source unlike some companies that rebrand and double the price!
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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby k3vinjam3s » Thu Jun 20, 2019 19:31 pm

Matt_N wrote:I actually really like the look of them and have emailed to ask if they can supply with a Campag freehub, I know it’s easily swapped but I want it to be supplied, just over £400 for the 50mm seems good VFM to me and more representative of the price versus getting them direct from source unlike some companies that rebrand and double the price!


I have had good communication from them and they more or less said they were brands on the market with the same builds charging double the price. I have ordered the 50mm wheelset from them on the back of their detailed coms. A 4 week aint great though but ill be patient.

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Re: Moriarty carbon wheelsets

Postby Daniel B » Thu Jun 20, 2019 19:40 pm

They do appear to be very good value don't they, be interested to hear how you get on with them once they arrive.

Wheel weights, if accurate, seem to be very competitive.
Bit surprised the 50F\60R comes in at 1540g, the same as 30F\50R.

Can you spec them with no decals if you wanted do you know?
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