How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

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How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

£20+ per hour
10
16%
£10-20 per hour
5
8%
£5-10 per hour
9
15%
£2-5 per hour
13
21%
£1-2 per hour
13
21%
Less than £1 per hour
12
19%
 
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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby meursault » Mon Sep 02, 2019 15:21 pm

£1.87 per kilometer. So far. £3k bike 2.5 years

Also not sure how to work out hours.

The way I see it, I don't smoke, take drugs, drink to excess or have other expensive hobbies, so why not?
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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Slowbike » Mon Sep 02, 2019 15:30 pm

When you're calculating the hours - do you include stoppage time at Cafe's - what about times when you just have to fettle it - even when nothing is wrong - all "fun" stuff ...

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Postby KingstonGraham » Mon Sep 02, 2019 15:37 pm

Slowbike wrote:what about times when you just have to fettle it - even when nothing is wrong - all "fun" stuff ...


You should add your hourly labour price onto the bike cost for that.
and then the next thing you know

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Slowbike » Mon Sep 02, 2019 16:13 pm

KingstonGraham wrote:
Slowbike wrote:what about times when you just have to fettle it - even when nothing is wrong - all "fun" stuff ...


You should add your hourly labour price onto the bike cost for that.

er ... would be ok now - but when I started it would've been negative ;)

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby NitrousOxide » Mon Sep 02, 2019 17:29 pm

Slowbike wrote:When you're calculating the hours - do you include stoppage time at Cafe's - what about times when you just have to fettle it - even when nothing is wrong - all "fun" stuff ...


This is important, just like how Strava massages egos by giving the average speed off moving time, rather than how much time elapsed during the whole ride... All that fake time from traffic lights, junctions, cafe stops etc. :shock: :lol:
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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby awavey » Mon Sep 02, 2019 22:26 pm

£1-2 though my best bike wasnt that much in the grand scheme of things, just over £750 brand new, but any cost efficiency I might have had on the bike has been blown away by the amount I spend on cycling kit :lol:

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Postby 964Cup » Mon Sep 02, 2019 22:52 pm

How on earth do you work out what your "best bike" cost? If by best you mean most expensive, mine's on its fourth wheelset, third chainset, second groupset, third rear derailleur, fourth saddle, fourth or fifth cassette, umpty-zillionth chain and set of tyres, second pair of brakes, third recable, second frame repair and so on and so forth.

Based on inspired guess work, for the most expensive bike I'd say £48.41 per hour of moving time; about £1.87 per kilometre.
But my favourite bike (on the same basis) owes me £13.50 per hour, or £0.54 per kilometre.
The best value is apparently my old fixie, at £6.38 per hour and £0.30 per klick.

Of course the faster you go, the worse your number looks. And you can end up with some weird outlier numbers if you have a serial bike-buying habit. I've got several not actually expensive bikes that "cost" hundreds of pounds per hour, and tens of pounds per kilometre, but it's only because I've barely ridden them. I think the current winner is probably either a Vitus 979 I bought because it was pretty, on which I've done 110 total km, or the Sonnet Mark II I bought because I saw it on here (it's the actual demo frame: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/11sp ... -gear-113/) and which I blinged up with shiny Japanese kit but have only used for 200km.

If we're talking elapsed time, or including fettling time, thinking-about-bikes time and talking-about-bikes time, then all of my bikes collectively owe me about 2p an hour. So that's a win.

Oh god - while I was writing this someone mentioned kit. Let's not talk about kit. Suffice it to say that eventually I gave in and bought a bike shop. No, really.

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby TurboTommy » Tue Sep 03, 2019 22:19 pm

964Cup wrote:How on earth do you work out what your "best bike" cost? If by best you mean most expensive, mine's on its fourth wheelset, third chainset, second groupset, third rear derailleur, fourth saddle, fourth or fifth cassette, umpty-zillionth chain and set of tyres, second pair of brakes, third recable, second frame repair and so on and so forth.

Based on inspired guess work, for the most expensive bike I'd say £48.41 per hour of moving time; about £1.87 per kilometre.
But my favourite bike (on the same basis) owes me £13.50 per hour, or £0.54 per kilometre.
The best value is apparently my old fixie, at £6.38 per hour and £0.30 per klick.

Of course the faster you go, the worse your number looks. And you can end up with some weird outlier numbers if you have a serial bike-buying habit. I've got several not actually expensive bikes that "cost" hundreds of pounds per hour, and tens of pounds per kilometre, but it's only because I've barely ridden them. I think the current winner is probably either a Vitus 979 I bought because it was pretty, on which I've done 110 total km, or the Sonnet Mark II I bought because I saw it on here (it's the actual demo frame: https://www.bikeradar.com/features/11sp ... -gear-113/) and which I blinged up with shiny Japanese kit but have only used for 200km.

If we're talking elapsed time, or including fettling time, thinking-about-bikes time and talking-about-bikes time, then all of my bikes collectively owe me about 2p an hour. So that's a win.

Oh god - while I was writing this someone mentioned kit. Let's not talk about kit. Suffice it to say that eventually I gave in and bought a bike shop. No, really.


After reading the list of parts you’ve gone through on your best bike including four saddles (really?). I’m not sure if you actually ride it, or just occasionally throw it down a flight of stairs!
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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Term1te » Wed Sep 04, 2019 08:17 am

I don't know about the hours of use, but over the last three years it works out at around 20p/km. As I intend to be riding it for at least the next 20 years (bespoke titanitum) I guess it will be at around 5p/km when I finally stop. Thats not far off the cost of a long-haul flight/km

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby KingstonGraham » Wed Sep 04, 2019 09:12 am

964Cup wrote:Of course the faster you go, the worse your number looks.


Only if you are seeing a larger number as worse. If it's worth it, it just is.
and then the next thing you know

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby cgfw201 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 13:28 pm

£1500 Canyon Ultimate
2312 hours, 59,500km

If you add parts, maintenance etc it's probably about £3k I'd guess.

Still plenty of miles in the tank to go.

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby 964Cup » Wed Sep 04, 2019 16:43 pm

TurboTommy wrote:After reading the list of parts you’ve gone through on your best bike including four saddles (really?). I’m not sure if you actually ride it, or just occasionally throw it down a flight of stairs!


It's been "upgraded" quite often, usually in pursuit of specious weight reduction. It did get as low as 5.3kg all-up (with Di2, pedals, cages etc), but that was with the first of two ultra-light carbon saddles that were not compatible with my backside, a 780g tubular wheelset whose braking didn't inspire confidence and an aluminium cassette with about the same Mohs hardness as a ripe brie.

I have, in fact, dropped it down the stairs once. That made an expensive noise. I've also had one of those typical scenarios where combining the lightest possible components from everywhere results in a drivetrain that's, shall we say, sub-optimal in shifting performance. Result: RD passing through the seatstay and three spokes on its way to the chainstay. That also made an expensive noise.

On the other hand, it's been up (and down) 20-odd HC climbs and however many lesser cols and I'm still alive, so it's not all bad. In its current evolution it's gained about 700g but appears to work properly and doesn't turn my cheeks into hamburger. Which is nice.

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby paul64 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 06:53 am

You could get really complicated with this. Price over longer-term ownership taking into account consumables, upgrades, equipment changes, accessories, clothing, workshop tools, amortise across different bikes. I can understand why Imposter replied the way he did!

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Slowbike » Thu Sep 05, 2019 09:28 am

964Cup wrote:
TurboTommy wrote:After reading the list of parts you’ve gone through on your best bike including four saddles (really?). I’m not sure if you actually ride it, or just occasionally throw it down a flight of stairs!


It's been "upgraded" quite often, usually in pursuit of specious weight reduction.<snip>

I have, in fact, dropped it down the stairs once. That made an expensive noise.
<snip>Which is nice.


Did you need a step ladder to retrieve it from the ceiling?

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby 964Cup » Thu Sep 05, 2019 20:20 pm

Slowbike wrote:
964Cup wrote:
TurboTommy wrote:After reading the list of parts you’ve gone through on your best bike including four saddles (really?). I’m not sure if you actually ride it, or just occasionally throw it down a flight of stairs!


It's been "upgraded" quite often, usually in pursuit of specious weight reduction.<snip>

I have, in fact, dropped it down the stairs once. That made an expensive noise.
<snip>Which is nice.


Did you need a step ladder to retrieve it from the ceiling?

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Mouth » Fri Sep 06, 2019 04:57 am

I'm starting to think I use my bike in the wrong way. I've had my (only bike) £375 Boardman two years this week, use it for commuting on average twice per week - sometimes more, sometimes less, for 10 miles round trip. so call it 1000miles per year. That's something like 19p a mile, plus the expenses of getting the wheels trued seemingly on a monthly basis. That being said I don't have fancy riding gear or supplements or energy gels and such like.

Sadly, and I've only just realised this, in those two years I've never been on a 'leisure' ride.
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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby PBlakeney » Fri Sep 06, 2019 05:08 am

Buying a set of cheap but decent wheels will work out cheaper in the long run than getting wonky ones tried on a monthly basis. Surely.
PS - £1.14 per hour and diminishing. More spent on clothing, accessories and holidays though. By a long, long way.
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Postby philbar72 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 07:20 am

the answer is of course, I don't care. it really doesn't worry me.

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby joey54321 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:06 am

PBlakeney wrote:Buying a set of cheap but decent wheels will work out cheaper in the long run than getting wonky ones tried on a monthly basis. Surely.
PS - £1.14 per hour and diminishing. More spent on clothing, accessories and holidays though. By a long, long way.


Or take them to someone who knows what they are doing. Unless the wheels are just unsuitable for the riders weight there is no reason why they should require regular truing like that

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Re: How Much Has Your "Best" Bike Cost You in Pounds per Hour of Usage?

Postby Flâneur » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:35 am

I've at times used the km/hour to justify spending X amount on a bike, makes it reasonable rather than overly indulgent at times. Ignoring the running costs

My first top bike before being written off and an insurance pay out (so effectively cost me 0) was around the £2-3. Current one is above that, at the £3 mark but then again I've forgotten how to cycle this summer it seems.


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